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	<title>Comments on: What is specific about decisioning?</title>
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		<title>By: Jean Pommier</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ilog.com/isis/2008/05/what-is-specific-about-decisioning/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Pommier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the cross refence, Sanjay. Two things:

- Yes that's true that we have not released a formal methodology to the public domain on the opti side, like we did this Spring for BRMS with &lt;a href="http://www.ilog.com/brms/methodology.cfm" rel="nofollow"&gt;ABRD (Agile Business Rule Development)&lt;/a&gt;, available on the Eclipse download website. However, as discussed in your session at Informs in Baltimore, that's something we are note excluding pertaining there is enough interest and that corresponds to the community expectations and needs. Which I believe the community is actually still questionning, as you do in your blog. I definitely appreciate your leading role in this area, hope the topic gets good traction.

- As for actual use, you know we have done many end-to-end systems ourselves, which I think is the most important test for a methodology (large-scale being quite subjective and I'd argue that the need to address medium-scale systems is actually more important because they are more of these projects out there, and large ones are usually already getting a lot of management attention). Such systems are involving a lot of methematical modeling and algorithms. It is true that we usually rely on our client's mastering of the third component from an OR standpoint, that is statistics (per the OR definition on Wikipedia). Welcome input from the community about what is specific to this side of OR, from an implementation methodology standpoint.

Anyway, appreciate the discussion on this topic to keep the ball rolling on what you have started within the Informs community over the past years.

Jean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the cross refence, Sanjay. Two things:</p>
<p>- Yes that&#8217;s true that we have not released a formal methodology to the public domain on the opti side, like we did this Spring for BRMS with <a href="http://www.ilog.com/brms/methodology.cfm" rel="nofollow">ABRD (Agile Business Rule Development)</a>, available on the Eclipse download website. However, as discussed in your session at Informs in Baltimore, that&#8217;s something we are note excluding pertaining there is enough interest and that corresponds to the community expectations and needs. Which I believe the community is actually still questionning, as you do in your blog. I definitely appreciate your leading role in this area, hope the topic gets good traction.</p>
<p>- As for actual use, you know we have done many end-to-end systems ourselves, which I think is the most important test for a methodology (large-scale being quite subjective and I&#8217;d argue that the need to address medium-scale systems is actually more important because they are more of these projects out there, and large ones are usually already getting a lot of management attention). Such systems are involving a lot of methematical modeling and algorithms. It is true that we usually rely on our client&#8217;s mastering of the third component from an OR standpoint, that is statistics (per the OR definition on Wikipedia). Welcome input from the community about what is specific to this side of OR, from an implementation methodology standpoint.</p>
<p>Anyway, appreciate the discussion on this topic to keep the ball rolling on what you have started within the Informs community over the past years.</p>
<p>Jean.</p>
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		<title>By: Intechne Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OR Practice Methodology: Assumptions &#38; Concepts</title>
		<link>http://blogs.ilog.com/isis/2008/05/what-is-specific-about-decisioning/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Intechne Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; OR Practice Methodology: Assumptions &#38; Concepts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Being a proprietary system that is viewed as a competitive advantage by Ilog, a list of OR-specific ISIS features has not been released. I do believe that ISIS has not, in any meaningful way, been used to develop [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Being a proprietary system that is viewed as a competitive advantage by Ilog, a list of OR-specific ISIS features has not been released. I do believe that ISIS has not, in any meaningful way, been used to develop [...]</p>
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